Forum:The Bard, Illogicomedia Foundation and What His Deal Is?

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User:The Bard has long been operating a web site that he calls the "Illogicomedia Foundation" at illogicomedia.org without any approval, consent or real interaction with Illogicopedia staff, or as far as I know, any other Illogicopedia users besides himself. On Friday, he ran a story on his blog that seems to be intended as some sort of attack piece on me personally, and not even me right now, but me from like four years ago regarding issues we all talked through and seemed to have resolved before his trying to open up that whole can of worms again for no good reason.

We pretty much decided to ditch the whole, "we are not persuasive" rule at that time, or at least that was my understanding anyway, (apparently it's still there which indicates nobody's helped keep the page updated) which is why a few of my more recent articles have gotten a little more ideologically pointed, as in Richard Dawkins (cult leader). This accusation of hypocrisy is really not fair. I think we should've kept that rule but if we're not going to have it, then I should be able to express my opinions with persuasive writing just like anyone else.

Even if this isn't intended as an attack piece, it does raise wider issues about what the hell this 'Illogicomedia Foundation" project has to do with anything. If it's part of Illogicopedia then why aren't the Illogicopedia admins invited to be a part of it? In that case, we should combine it with the IllogiBlog. If it's not a part of Illogicopedia then The Bard needs to quit saying it is when it's actually just a personal project of his (and apparently a platform for critiquing other Illogicopedians he disagrees with) and not affiliated with us. Whatever the deal is, we need to get this straightened out.

BTW, we actually do have a semi-official embassy/consulate on UnMeta, run by "Illogicopedia ambassadors" User:Hindleyite, User:CartoonistHenning and myself. I think that's the closest thing we have as a community (or at least supported by multiple Illogicopedians including staff instead of just one guy) to an IllogiMeta or Illogicomedia group until and unless we can work out some kind of arrangement to officially work with TheBard's "Illogicomedia Foundation" which is something I am still open to doing, despite his apparent unprovoked hostility toward me. --Nerd42 (talk) 04:00, 13 Aym 2013 (UTC)

From the perspective of someone who has until recently had little to do with this site, is a Foundation actually even necessary? I mean, if it's the same idea as UnMeta which I'm assuming it is at least similar in premise, I don't think Illogicopedia needs one. The english version has a userbase of not that many? I guess maybe 10 at most and most of the other languages are either smaller or non-existant. Whats the point of having a foundation to co-ordinate something that isn't big enough to require co-ordinating? ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!) 10:46, 13 Aym 2013 (UTC)

Like Uncyclopedia, part of the purpose of Illogicopedia is to parody Wikipedia projects, including Meta-Wiki and the Wikimedia Foundation. A secondary purpose might be to have a spot for regrouping if the main web site every goes down. --Nerd42 (talk) 14:24, 13 Aym 2013 (UTC)

Personally, I think it's cute that you keep the Policy both in the Commandments and on your user page (just so you can later link to it and say, "See, I told you so."). If the Nerd42 of the past isn't the Nerd42 of you today, it's not easy to tell. =) Geek43 is affectionate homage to that person, whether he still exists or not.

The Foundation serves no purpose whatsoever, which is to say that it is slightly less useful than this website. It could be a cooperative project with input and content from users here, but few are interested in helping. Not then (as a wiki) and not now (as a CMS). Cheers! ~ The Bard of Illogicopedia 11:31, 13 Aym 2013 (UTC)

OK, well, if you're going to parody a non-celebrity individual then some kind of note of explanation might be good. Otherwise it looks like an attempt at trolling.

I'd be interested in helping with the Illogicomedia Foundation stuff actually. I think we should move the IllogiBlog there, or somehow collapse the distinction between the Foundation blog and the IllogiBlog. --Nerd42 (talk) 14:24, 13 Aym 2013 (UTC)